TMIT 39: Family AI – The Tools We're Using to Clarify, Coach, & Create at Home

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Welcome to the most important
thing.

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I'm Danielle.
And I'm Greg Bot, and together

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we're exploring family culture
in the age of AI.

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That's right.
I've got my meta Ray bans on

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ironically of which I never use
any AI features so let me take

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those off.
But they are the best family

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photography assistant so that is
why I started with these.

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I think that every family should
have one.

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Allows me to stay in the moment
and shoot my kids without

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needing to go into my pocket
first.

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That's right.
I'll leave it to Greg to always

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have the latest technological
innovation for both work and

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home.
Yeah, well, we were just joking

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that the kids got new iPads and
new headphones because it's a

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gift to me.
It's not really a gift to them.

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It's a gift to us, being able
to.

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Daddy, I need you to connect my
headphones exactly.

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Yeah, well, you really took this
to the next level because it was

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Hunter's 8th birthday this past
week and she wanted a camera.

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And.
You did a lot of research on the

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best camera for kids and what
did you come out?

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With I said Hunter, the best
camera for kids, the best camera

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is an iPhone, and I ain't even
going to figure out how to lock

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down this sucker so that it is
just a camera for you.

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So that's right, you heard
correctly.

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Hunter Neufeld currently owns an
iPhone, and not even a very old

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one.
No, she's got a 15 Pro, so

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that's a very recent device.
So it's it was your old phone

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and she's very happy.
I'm very happy.

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Obviously she's very happy I'm.
Very happy that I can lock down

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all of the controls and apps.
Apple's done a pretty good job

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of figuring this out and I was
like this is a solved problem.

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We have an 8 year old that
doesn't really care about the

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apps but does care about video
and photography.

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So let's just give her this and
get rid of the apps.

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Yeah, so stay tuned.
We gave our 8 year old an iPhone

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and she definitely had a lot of
excitement about the form factor

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for the 1st 24 hours, but it
wore off pretty quickly.

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It did.
And it's funny, Jane keeps

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saying to correcting Hunter when
she calls it a phone, she says

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it's a device.
That's right.

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Which she's right.
She's right.

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So I guess the plan for us is to
give her the phone now though,

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as a form factor that can only,
we can only do cameras, so

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videos and photos, but that
hopefully she will, well, one,

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because it was the best
technology available, right?

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We, we didn't really feel like
spending a couple $100 on a joke

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of a kid camera.
But the idea being that she can

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kind of grow with the phone that
will keep it developmentally

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appropriate.
So right now she has no way of

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communicating with the outside
world, right?

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But that over time we will build
on to this device and make it

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and it will grow with her, which
I haven't really heard people

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talking about.
So I'm excited.

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I think that we're kind of on a
new frontier here and a little

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nervous because I thought you
were nuts at first, but we'll

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see.
We'll see.

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I mean, we can always walk it
back.

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We've we've created a system for
her to score herself on how she

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how well she does on her morning
checklist.

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And if she doesn't score very
well, she's not going to be able

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to use that phone that day and
she knows that.

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So that's another incentive that
we've created here around this

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device.
And if it comes up that we need

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to pivot, we will.
Hardware aside, what we wanted

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to talk about today is family
life in the age of AI.

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So we came up with this episode
because we've been asked a lot.

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Yeah, recently, especially like
how do you use AI in the home?

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And you know, there's a lot of
AI that we use for work.

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And I would say that that is
pretty well covered, but I

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haven't really seen a good
explainer of how AI can be used

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effectively to create family
culture and to lead at home.

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Not like, you know, there's,
there's lots of stuff like, oh,

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you know, how to make images and
logos and coloring books and

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stuff for.
Your party invitation party like

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that?
Right.

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But this is brand new for all of
us, right?

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It was 20 November 2022.
So it's been three years since

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ChatGPT came out.
And in those three years, a lot

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has happened, but what really
has happened is some people have

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adopted and some people are kind
of afraid to lean in, especially

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when it comes to home life.
It shocks me that I still have

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friends or here on my housewives
podcast that have never

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downloaded ChatGPT or any AI
system.

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Some because they're adamantly
opposed to it, but others

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because they just hasn't
occurred to them to do so.

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Yeah, and, you know, I can't
blame them.

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Like, it is wild to me being on
the frontier of technology that

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people wouldn't adopt.
But I think it back to my

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parents and the Internet.
And they were pretty forward

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thinking and they got on AOL,
you know, fairly early.

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But it was a scary time and
place.

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They didn't know how to manage
it for themselves.

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They certainly didn't know how
to manage it for me and my

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brother.
And we got into all sorts of

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trouble online.
Like so you know this is a hairy

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topic and this is our
generations version of the

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Internet.
Yes, absolutely.

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So this technological shift that
we're standing in the middle of

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is a pivotal time for us as
families.

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New York Times will come out
with the story about the child

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falling in love with a chatbot,
or I mean, much darker things to

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like.
But what's certain, just if you

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follow the progress of time, is
that parents are going to be

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behind and, and parents right
now feel like it's really hard

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to keep up.
So I mean, I certainly do like,

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you know, and I work in this
stuff like I, I use this for,

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for home life.
But had I not stumbled into some

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things from work and brought
them into the home life I I

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probably wouldn't have known
where to get started.

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Right.
I mean, I feel like this is the

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challenge that our generation of
parents is having generally with

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things like cell phones, right?
If you had asked me two weeks

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ago, I would have said, oh,
Hunter is not getting a cell

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phone until she's 16.
And all of a sudden there's an

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iPhone in our home, right?
We're still figuring it out.

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It's still new.
And we're not yet able to

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navigate this with confidence.
I think even, you know, the

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books are being being written
now and they'll and that'll be

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the first edition, right?
They will be updated and

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revised.
And so this is just for us, I

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think when we sit back and think
about our family culture, do we

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want to be the people that are
fearful of the next great

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technology wave?
Do we want to be the people that

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are avoidant of the great, the
next great technology wave or do

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we want to experiment and engage
with it?

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And certainly calibrate right,
like get over our skis and how

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much we use it and then quit for
a little while and really try to

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figure out how to optimize what
works for our family for sure.

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And door number three, 100% for
us right number.

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Three, the iPhone with Hunter is
a great analogy, though, and

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I'll tell you why.
It's because if we don't reason

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from first principles about how
to use this stuff, we're going

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to be pushed the kid version of
all this crap.

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And I've already seen it.
I've seen get your kids away

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from screens and use this little
like furry thing with the screen

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that will engage with them on
math problems and ask them how

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their day was and stuff like.
That and let them create

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imaginary friends, which is
essentially the same thing that

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we're talking about with
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chatbots just literally dressed
up in fur.

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Absolutely.
And if you, if you think that

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the big brands like Disney and
Marvel, you know, aren't getting

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into AI and trying to put it in
our households, you're

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absolutely wrong.
They're going to infiltrate our

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lives if we, if we let them by
saying, hey, wouldn't it be fun

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to have bedtime stories read to
you by your favorite Disney

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character?
Or like you know, come up with a

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story or a game you know here
and there and and use our IP to

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create.
I think the image IP is going to

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be huge.
It's going to be huge.

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It already is starting.
So suffice it to say that this

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technology wave, the tsunami is
here and it's not going

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anywhere.
So we would love to talk about

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how we use it in our home today.
And this is one of those things,

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it's very new.
And with most things in life, we

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have a saying that we've
borrowed from a very famous

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venture capitalist firm A16Z,
which is strong convictions

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weekly held.
So we 100% reserve the right to

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change our mind.
But as of December 2025, this is

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how we are using AI within our
family culture.

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That's right.
And before we dig in, I heard

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this line from Jerry Seinfeld
that I loved.

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He said we're smart enough to
invent AI, dumb enough to need

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it, and so stupid we can't
figure out if we did the right

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thing.
Yeah, it's true.

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That encapsulates.
It only time will tell.

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Only time will tell.
I mean, we were, If you had

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asked us to record this two
weeks ago, we would have been

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pushing our favorite work flows
on on shot GPT and now.

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Real time pivots, people.
Real time pivots.

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For team Gemini at home, like I
got to say, you know, GPT has

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been hallucinating and Gemini
has just caught up and it uses

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so many more results from the
live web than GPT and getting

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answers.
So it's crazy to say, but like,

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you know, there's very little
switching costs in these things

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and we're moving basically all
our conversations over to

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Gemini, yes.
It actually ties into the things

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that we've been talking about
these past couple of weeks with

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the shadow side of things.
I think that for some people,

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some of you, some of my friends
even that I know like this LLMAI

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wave is really, it's looming,
it's lurking in the shadows.

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And so a lot of what we want to
do today is really make it

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explicit, right?
Bring it into the light, show

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you that it's not that scary and
that there are ways to

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incorporate it into our
workflows while still

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maintaining agency and ultimate
decision making authority.

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That's right, right.
We're we're not suggesting that

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AI should take over our
thinking, right?

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Absolutely not.
This is it's it's shortcuts to

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getting the information.
It's not shortcuts to creating

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the outputs.
Yes, and it's pretty bad at

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writing still.
Yeah, don't use it.

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I mean I've been seeing like
people congratulating others or

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wishing others happy birthday
and it's just like full of M

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dashes and it's obviously chat
TBT.

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Which we're guilty of as well
that I think we've really kind

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of pushed ourselves away from
we've we've distanced ourselves

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from those do.
You remember on more recently on

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AIM or AOL when people used to
write an alternating capitals in

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lowercase letters?
Yes, it's basically this is this

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generation's version of that the
M-IS.

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I think we're going to look.
Back.

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Oh my gosh.
OK.

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So before we get there, let me
just check on our AI editor D

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script little plug for them and
make sure that it's recording.

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Good idea.
I would be lying if I said that

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that hasn't happened before.
All right, so we're going to

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talk about how we use AI in the
home and this episode is not

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really about the technology, but
about how we.

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Yeah.
So today we're going to talk

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about how we use AI to make
values aligned decisions and

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have fun together as a family.
The important thing for me when

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we talk about this is that none
of this is about consumption.

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It's not passive.
It's all about active leadership

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and how we use AI to support our
workflows while still making

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sure that we spend a lot of time
brainstorming, thinking

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critically, and it involves a
lot of iteration in these ideas

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to make them work.
It does, and it's not something

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that comes naturally to us
because again, three years is

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really all that we've had with
this latest LLM technology.

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And so in our house, we have a
playful ritual.

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Danielle and I have this like I
would call it a friendly

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competition almost about who can
ring the AI bell when we're

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solving problems.
Sure, who thinks to 1st right?

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How can we integrate AI into our
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Yeah, there's no real bell.
This is a proverbial AI bell.

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But it's a lot of fun and I've
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that I dread, like I'll have to
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Marketplace.
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to take photos of this.
I've got to look up the info.

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I've got to write the
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This is going to take.
And so I delay, delay,

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procrastinate on it.
But ringing the AI bell for

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Facebook Marketplace, yeah, you
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I take those photos, but then
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I go look this up, like create
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And it's.
Done.

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Yeah, Especially for things that
are good enough, right?

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Exactly.
That's that's the perfect

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example.
Now it's good enough.

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One place where I've noticed
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naturally is to our children
because there's an Alexa in our

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kitchen and the number of
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they are in dialogue with one
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homework.
I've had to stop that, right?

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Alexa is currently on mute
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quickly they have integrated
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worst day at.
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So honestly, having a speaker
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answers, I'm learning is not
working for us right now, right?

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But they very, very quickly are
tapping into, which I think is

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true to every technology wave,
right, that young people tend to

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adopt it more readily and more
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So it's just something to watch
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What stinks is that they don't
have like a notepad where they

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can actually look back on the
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a lot of those questions are
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consciousness and they don't
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they're not able to like reflect
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skill.
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experiments here, right?
It's really about about teaching

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them to leverage AI.
But iterate on those ideas and

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think critically about the
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Right?
Because a ton of the time it

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hallucinates.
Well, it it it sure does, but it

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is great for ground truth and
we'll get into that in a moment.

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So we rang the AI bell to make
this episode and we.

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Asked.
How meta but not meta?

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We used a bunch of our different
models to add that we that we

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talked to to ask the question,
how do we use AI?

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How?
Are we using AI actually?

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Like, tell us what we've been
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And when we pulled everything
together, there was an obvious

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pattern that emerged that we
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categories to put everything in,
and those are clarify, Coach and

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create.
And Greg actually came up with

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these, even though it does sound
like something that GPT would

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create, correct?
OK, so the ways we use AI for

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our family, we are going to
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clarify, coach and Create.
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All right.
So you want to start with

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clarify.
Sure, absolutely.

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So clarify and what we really
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the truth.
So there are a number of

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different ways that we get at
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one is your limitless PIN, which
I'm.

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Wearing around my neck right now
I'm wearing this and showing it

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to the the cameras because it is
probably the best in person

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scribe that I've that that I
could have ever wished for.

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And I wear it on my hip most
days just walking about the

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house and in conversation with
you and the kids.

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But yeah, do you want to talk
about like what, what, what

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going back to the tape really
means here and what we're able

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to do with Limitless?
Yeah, absolutely.

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So when there is a disagreement,
right, rather than agreeing to

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disagree about whether someone
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the day prior, right.
If there's a dialogue about it

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or say Hunter has and this has
happened, like Greg's having a

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conversation with another adult
and Hunter wants to know

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specifically how it went, right?
And Greg's able to to open it up

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and be like, no, this is exactly
what we talked about.

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Here's the recording so that
there is no, no discrepancies

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between what actually happened
and what we're sharing, no human

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bias.
I will say it does freak people

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out a little bit.
Even the most pioneering of

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technologists that we have
encountered that the fact that

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you are constantly wearing a
recording device is, it's one of

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those ethical questions of our
generation, right?

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But we can't put the genie back
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And when I think about all of
the meetings that I have it at

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work and on Zoom and how many of
those are recorded, it's about

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95%.
And how many of those say that

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they're being recorded like 5%?
It reminds me of the Freedom of

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Information Act when it first
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People like some people are
like, I have nothing to hide,

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who cares?
And other people are like, no,

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this is a total violation of my
privacy, right?

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And it's here.
It's here to stay if.

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We think about where this is
going play the tape forward

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another 25 years, right, so the.
Actual tape, not your.

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The proverbial tape, not your.
Limitless, correct?

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So if we just think about
playing that tape forward, OK,

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this is a recording of my
experience, right?

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So I, I think that I should own
my experience.

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I have it through my ears.
I have it into my brain and now

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I have it in a limitless pen.
Yes, if you Fast forward 25

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years, you don't need the pen.
It's in your brain.

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The pen is in your brain.
Like that is where we're going.

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And so I think that we all have
to get used to this idea that we

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we are able to record our own
experiences and we can pass on

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those experiences, but they are
ours because we live them in

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that moment.
They are not anyone else's, even

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if someone else is there, you
know, communicating with us.

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Yes.
And I would say the bulk of the

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time you're not necessarily
playing back the recording of

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your conversation with someone.
Typically what's happening is

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you and I are having a
conversation while we're on our

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run that moves into the
bathroom, that moves into the

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kitchen.
And we're like, wait, we had so

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many good ideas about work,
about family life, about this

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podcast during that time.
And Greg can get a summary of

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that from the limitless pin.
So no longer are we concerned

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that we will lose or have to
rehash conversations that we've

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already had.
It's like, what did we decide?

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What was that great phrase?
Oh, it's here.

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It's right here and I never have
to have that fear of like

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missing that piece of
information or forgetting it

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where I'm not able to stay
present the rest of the time.

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Do you want to talk a little bit
about your workflow?

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Like how you actually use it.
Honestly, I let this be a

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passive device that is able to
push information back to me.

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So it will push information in
the app saying, hey, here was a

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summary of your day yesterday.
You had a nice Family Day.

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You guys, you know, went to the
park and you picked up trash and

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then you went and gave out
cookies and it was a, you know,

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a lovely different kind of
Thanksgiving, for example.

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Then it'll say here are some
opportunities to that were

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missed where you could have
connected or here are, you know,

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some other things.
So Limitless just gives me like

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a summary of how my day went and
it helps me remember and query

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it back when I want to go back
into the past.

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OK, great.
So that's an understanding of

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Limitless.
We also use something called

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Whisper Flow, which is really
talk about shifting our

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workflows.
I hate typing at this point

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thanks to Whisper Flow because
now I am able to double tap on

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my keyboard and dictate what I
want to say in an e-mail or a

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text message or even talking to
AI in a way that is so much more

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effective than whatever Apple
has on their talk to text.

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This is not your like iPhones
text, text to speech.

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This is an open AI model called
Whisper that's built into an

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app.
Basically that is a wrapper

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called Whisper Flow that lives
on all of your devices and it

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takes what you say and makes it
actually look like what you

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meant to say.
With punctuation, with meaning,

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with.
If you if you stumble your words

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it, it's not going to include.
It lightly changes syntax I've

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noticed more recently too to
make things more clear, but I

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cannot.
I know some people love to send

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audio messages.
I don't know anybody that loves

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to receive audio messages and so
and some people really truly

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hate them like Greg.
I would prefer to listen to them

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on like 2X speed.
Please send.

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Anyone an audio message?
If you're listening to this, yes

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it is.
It is.

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It is an act of torture.
Right, But I know, I know some

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people that do and they do it
because it's easier and if

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they're like say a busy mom,
right.

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But anyway, I think that whisper
flow is really the best.

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I would, I would say that it's
the best solution because it's

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so much more understandable than
the voice to text that we have

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on our on our phones, like
naturally on our phones and the

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I don't, I do use it for
communicating with others, but

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just actually being able to
brainstorm my ideas in spoken

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word as opposed to typing them
out has exponentially supported

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my creativity and and work in
general.

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Again, we play the tape through,
you don't need to double tap on

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your keyboard.
It's just connected, right?

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So that's what's going to
happen.

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And we're we're really seeing a
glimpse of the future with this

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advanced AI model called
Whisper.

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Right, OK.
And then the, so we've talked

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about the limitless pin whisper
flow.

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The third thing that we think
about when we think about

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clarifying is how we can use AI
to surface information that

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would usually be hard to find.
Yes.

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Absolutely, and not even talking
about deep research, but in

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looking for things that are
extremely important and

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imperative to Get the facts
right.

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So I started kindergarten when I
was 4 and I turned 5 in October

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in Florida where we live.
The state, according to

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everything that I had seen and
that Danielle had seen, said

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that kids cannot start
kindergarten if they are not 5

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before September 1st.
And I said, you know, this has

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to be a solved problem because I
think about all the people from

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the North, where it was the 1231
cut off that are down here in

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Florida and where the Maverick
is ready for kindergarten next

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year.
And so I worked with GPT to

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figure out how this was actually
structured in the state.

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And it turns out that private
schools can accept children at

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any point, irrespective of when
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Which was news not just to us,
but also to the director of the

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private school that we want
Maverick to go to next year.

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So we were able to find the
exact, you know, the exact

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statutes in the Florida
Constitution that proved that

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Maverick could enter
kindergarten.

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We brought it to the
administrator, and she was like,

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wow, this is so helpful.
I've been turning kids away.

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I'm calling the Department of
Education to confirm that this

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is correct, even though I've
spoken with them before.

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Right?
Right.

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And so it we we made change
here.

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Yes, huge, huge change.
Not just for our family, but for

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the school itself.
Right, there was a

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misunderstanding because who if
you don't have a full time clerk

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on your payroll, who has time to
go through the Florida Statutes,

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right?
That said, the most important

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thing about when we surface
information using AI is to

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verify, verify, verify.
Like I would not even say trust,

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but verify.
I would say hallucinations

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aren't just real, they are
common.

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So make sure that you always go
back to the ground truth.

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Yes, these models are three
years old and don't trust a

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three-year old anything with
anything.

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Yeah, but it can.
So it can be really helpful in

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surfacing information as long as
we also verify through

451
00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:26,160
legitimate sources, right,
Correct.

452
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,920
OK.
So that's clarified.

453
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,840
And then the second aspect or
the second way that we use AI

454
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,320
for our family is really around
coaching.

455
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,320
And this is a lot of the time
turning the ground truth into

456
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,440
insights for our family.
Exactly.

457
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,920
So back to the limitless pin,
which is playing back the tape,

458
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,760
but also there's coaching
involved where I can say, you

459
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,040
know, hey, was there an
opportunity for me to connect

460
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,440
better with Maverick in some
way?

461
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,240
Or sometimes I just get pushed.
Hey, here's a summary of your

462
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,200
day.
And by the way, it looks like

463
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,280
you really struggled with Hunter
and maybe this was a missed

464
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,800
opportunity that you you 2 might
want to look to connect on next

465
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,480
time.
Or I know Limitless, you've been

466
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,640
around this past five day
weekend when Hunter and Maverick

467
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,720
have gotten into it a lot.
Can you give us an understanding

468
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:17,600
from your perspective on what is
happening and some possible

469
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,800
ideas for supporting them?
Yes, and that was really cool.

470
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,840
That was a real one that we used
just yesterday.

471
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,560
And it was important for us to
do it as a family, right, so

472
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,880
that everyone could hear a an
unbiased account without

473
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,480
judgement or criticism of what
has been happening.

474
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,800
And some some ideas that then we
we were able to brainstorm

475
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,160
additional ideas of how to
support them specifically.

476
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,920
But having Hunter and Maverick
be able to hear an unbiased

477
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,880
account of their behavior, like
a neutral third party, if you

478
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,840
will, really laid the foundation
for them to support each other.

479
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,080
And it's only been, you know,
3648 hours since we had that

480
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,280
conversation.
But I do think that it really

481
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,360
started to change things for
them.

482
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,520
And I know now what to look for
what they called it over

483
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,640
limitless, called it overlapping
dominant personalities and that

484
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,920
the vast majority of the fights
that they're getting into start

485
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,640
as power struggles.
And so now I've already started

486
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,800
to see even if I'm going, which
is not the best parenting in the

487
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,800
world, right?
But like when I start to see the

488
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,840
struggles it it really has
helped me to know what to look

489
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,360
out for.
Yeah, totally 22 points on that

490
00:26:31,360 --> 00:26:33,800
one.
I should have asked it to

491
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,480
explain it like I'm four or
something like.

492
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,320
You could have, yeah.
That that was a miss I We do

493
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,920
that often and that is another
good use on the on the these

494
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,520
things.
It's just like there's a

495
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,040
question.
Explain it like.

496
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:49,400
Well, on that note, though, I
think giving giving any AI

497
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,640
directive like you are a world
class X, you are a world class

498
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,240
podcast coach and producer.
How would you say this?

499
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,160
You are a world class
journalist, right?

500
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,560
Like uncover X for me, making
sure that it knows not just who

501
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,600
the audience is, but like to who
to really embody.

502
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,760
Is it talk to me like you're
Chris Sacca.

503
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,040
I do that, you know, like that
kind of thing that there's

504
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,360
enough publicly available
information about these

505
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:16,520
individuals out there and
they've been on a plenty, plenty

506
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,440
of podcasts.
It can do it for you pretty

507
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:19,880
well.
Yep.

508
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:26,600
So coach and give specifics
around how the communication and

509
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,800
context needs to be inputted and
outputted.

510
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,440
The second thing I was going to
say is for a week we did an

511
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,760
experiment where we hung the my
limitless in the kitchen so that

512
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,360
we could just hear how the
dynamics were between the kids.

513
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,720
And I think that that is going
to be another thing that I'm

514
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,280
going to look forward to is a
device that is sitting in our

515
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,560
kitchen that's able to feedback
to us what is happening when

516
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,840
we're not around.
And some of the words that get

517
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,080
used and both the good and the
bad, right?

518
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,840
Because I want to, I want to
know, you know, where are kids

519
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,400
showing up for one another and
where are they kind of missing

520
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,160
one another or where they
butting heads?

521
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,800
Yeah, jury's still out on that
one for me.

522
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,200
Because, as you know, I felt
like it was watching me well and

523
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,760
I was uncomfortable.
It's one thing if I can forget

524
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,600
that it exists and go back to my
real self, but I felt like I was

525
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,040
a bit performative or really
stunted in the way I was

526
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,960
responding because I was nervous
about it judging me.

527
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,840
I totally understand and hence
why I want it for like not as a

528
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,800
babysitter, but when we go out
for a run and you know, on the

529
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,400
weekend and the kids are home,
you know, putting it in the

530
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,000
kitchen and just hearing how
things are going.

531
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:44,320
Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe.
And so another way that we have

532
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,920
used AI as a coach is as a
guidance counselor for Hunter

533
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,840
and for Jade, right?
Always with us alongside of

534
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,280
them.
This is not teenagers falling in

535
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,600
love with chat bots.
This is sometimes going back to

536
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,320
that neutral third party with,
by the way, beautiful verbiage

537
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,920
and perfect intonation to
provide empathy and validation

538
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:09,000
and support just to ask
questions and to work through

539
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,640
problems with us sitting
alongside.

540
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,920
And it's almost like a family
therapist, if you will, for

541
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,080
really low stakes situations
that are that it may something

542
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:27,120
may have happened at school that
were they one where they will

543
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,600
just listen to a third party
more than they will listen to my

544
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,640
advice or just express their
feelings in a way that maybe

545
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,480
they weren't when they were
staring directly at me.

546
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,400
Yeah, no, I I completely agree.
And I think that this supervised

547
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,840
use of a, of a large language
model, parents and child is so

548
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,800
much better than what they're
going to push out there around

549
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,920
child therapy with AI or family
therapy with AI.

550
00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:00,880
Because honestly, like once you
start giving your power over to

551
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,160
something because you're calling
it a therapist, that's when you

552
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,440
really run.
Into well, we struggle with that

553
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,240
with humans as well, right?
Even when, when you, I think

554
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,920
giving your power over to a
human therapist is also a

555
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,960
challenge.
And I think what we want to do,

556
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,960
same thing as we are with the
iPhone from a hardware

557
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,680
perspective, is that we want to
support and guide our children

558
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:29,080
in a developmentally appropriate
way to use these tools while

559
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,840
maintaining agency, autonomy,
boundaries and the ability to

560
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,800
think critically about, OK, was
that a good idea?

561
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,920
Let me let me repeat that back
to myself.

562
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,680
Like, was that a hallucination?
Was that just off?

563
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,280
Does that resonate with me?
But to tell you the truth, it's

564
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,160
not that different than a human
therapist who has no idea what

565
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,480
you're thinking either, right?
I mean, you and I have both

566
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,240
bullshitted and manipulated
therapists very easily, right?

567
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,440
So I don't see how it's going to
be any different with a chat bot

568
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,120
because they don't really know.
Nobody really knows what's going

569
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,400
on in your head.
But learning to leverage this

570
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:14,400
tool in a developmentally
appropriate way, as a family, as

571
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,080
a family early on, makes sense
for us.

572
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,640
It sure does.
It really does.

573
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,040
And similarly, health coaching.
So as far as health

574
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,640
troubleshooting, I do think it's
a slippery slope.

575
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,880
And I think both of us have come
to, well, we've gone down the

576
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,920
rabbit hole of is this the thing
that's giving me a stomach ache?

577
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,880
Is this the thing that's not
helping me sleep?

578
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,440
And it's like, yes, absolutely.
That is the problem.

579
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,880
And it'll, it's really just a
very big health spiral.

580
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:46,720
So as we talk about like kind of
being in this dance with AII

581
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,120
think that and we calibrate our
use of it.

582
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,160
I personally am staying away,
away from health coaching and so

583
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,920
we are like learning in real
time.

584
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,200
However, when Maverick slammed
his head when we were on a boat

585
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,560
in the middle of the
intracoastal, nowhere close to

586
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:09,240
where we came from, and he
started to get a giant Welt on

587
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,600
his head and we were scared out
of our minds.

588
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,240
Talking to GPT about what
actually just happened and

589
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,240
whether or not we needed to like
get an emergency airlift

590
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,000
situation or we were OK was so
powerful.

591
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,520
So powerful and the more
context, the better.

592
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,520
So multimodal, you know, photos,
videos, whatever we have on

593
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,560
hand, like the, the more context
is going to be, is going to be

594
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,160
better.
And taking a photo of the back

595
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,440
of his head and being like, he
just slammed his head.

596
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,280
Look at this.
It's incredibly powerful.

597
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,160
Yeah, it was.
So.

598
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,680
It was so comforting.
And, you know, I've had some

599
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:49,200
time to reflect more recently on
Jade's birth and the, you know,

600
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,120
potential malpractice that we
were a part of.

601
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:59,400
And I realized that it is so
incredibly unlikely that we

602
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,960
would have had that same
situation today because if we

603
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,160
had said I seem to have white
coat, high blood pressure and

604
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,480
panic in the office, they want
to induce me, what should I do?

605
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,360
It would have told us the truth,
which is that medical best

606
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,560
practice says you should have a
24 hour urine test, right?

607
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,280
I mean, I mean, and this is what
I mean by when you have 0

608
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,200
information available to you
because you're in panic mode and

609
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,600
you, you know, this is only your
second birth ever or you're in

610
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,920
the middle of the intracoastal
and your kid has had a head

611
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,880
your, their head.
It can be extremely clarifying

612
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,320
and supportive just to know.
Like just to gather some

613
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,880
baseline level of information
around what is supposed to be

614
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,640
done if you are a patient or
what you should do as as the

615
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,080
parent.
Totally.

616
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,960
I can't believe that 2019 is
basically the before times.

617
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,840
Yeah, I'm forgiving myself for
this, but I also, I'm just like,

618
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,040
gosh darn it, three years later
and we never, ever would have

619
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,960
had that traumatic experience.
They were like sanitizing the

620
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,920
scalpel with like some alcohol
and giving you a piece of wood

621
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,040
to bite down on.
Yeah, right.

622
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,560
You know that's.
Laughing.

623
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,880
Laughing gas.
That's basically what.

624
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,080
What it feels like, yeah.
Have this.

625
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,600
Power it must also be awful for
doctors right now because we are

626
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,840
in this like storming forming
phase of AI where I'm sure tons

627
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,199
of patients are coming in and
like GBT tells me to do X and

628
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,679
they're like, I don't know,
maybe my 30 years of experience

629
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,600
tell me to do why.
So I I feel for you in the

630
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,320
medical system out there and I'm
really glad that we as patients

631
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:41,080
have more opportunity to get up
to speed on our own health more

632
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,800
quickly.
OK, so #3 is create.

633
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,400
This is obviously my favorite 1
and I feel like something that a

634
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,120
lot of people know about.
I've heard some friends say, you

635
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,960
know, I tell it what's in my in
my refrigerator and it comes up

636
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,360
with a recipe or for us, a
couple years ago, we made this

637
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,640
awesome scavenger hunt for
Christmas morning.

638
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:03,640
These are some like really fun
ways to extend our own

639
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,240
creativity.
I also think that this gets to a

640
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:12,920
bigger concept, which is that
we've talked about as a family,

641
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,880
which is that we want to become
our role as a creator family,

642
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,480
not a consumer family because
with social.

643
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,640
Media.
With AI there is more content

644
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,560
out there than ever that is ripe
for consumption.

645
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,200
But.
We in the same way.

646
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,280
That we didn't give our kids
toys with batteries where you

647
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,200
can push lots of buttons because
it's very passive and we chose

648
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,760
to give them open-ended toys
that allow for active play.

649
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,440
We want to get them creating
simple things right now, right?

650
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,480
But creating videos, creating
tour guides, creating Lego

651
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:04,760
designs that are really an
effort to work with the AI so

652
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,960
that they one, develop an
understanding of what's involved

653
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,960
when they do consume, but two,
think more about how they don't

654
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,960
really have to consume because
they can create.

655
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,040
OK, so.
Some ways that we.

656
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,960
Have been creators as opposed to
consumers.

657
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:23,280
Have been like when we went to
the Kennedy Space Center, Hunter

658
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,200
very quickly created a tour, a
tour guide of it, I guess you

659
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,280
would say, through a series of
different videos.

660
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,520
And then we helped her put that
all together with edits.

661
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,600
We did the same thing for
Thanksgiving this year when we

662
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,040
had a gratitude table and gave
away free cookies.

663
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,240
She asked everyone that came up
what they were grateful for, and

664
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,520
then we were able to put
together a little video for her

665
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,320
very easily.
Yes, I I just love to see.

666
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,800
Them create and think.
Think about creating as their as

667
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,560
their instinct.
Now yes, I agree and.

668
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,760
Just a double click on the table
for a moment.

669
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,520
So as you mentioned, Greg, this
past weekend for Thanksgiving,

670
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,400
we did a part cleanup and little
gratitude trail and sidewalk

671
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,160
talk.
And then in the afternoon, we

672
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,440
gave away free cookies at a
gratitude table.

673
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,200
All of those ideas were AI
generated.

674
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,720
There were also about 100 other
bad ideas or ones that we did

675
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,160
not choose.
And I did feed it.

676
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,880
You know, this is how we want to
spend our day, giving back in

677
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,280
service in the community, being
outside, focusing on gratitude.

678
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,600
Here are some of the things that
we care about, right?

679
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,960
And so guiding it and
brainstorming with it.

680
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,120
But I have to tell you, I would
not have thought of a park

681
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,960
cleanup, a gratitude walk, or a
gratitude table on my own.

682
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,840
It's so cool.
So thanks be to AI, yeah.

683
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,720
And also like, you know.
There are, there's some

684
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,200
switching costs here.
I said there are no switching

685
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,120
costs, but there are some
because the models do get to

686
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,600
know us as, as people and kind
of the, the types of things that

687
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,440
we gravitate towards.
So I think that all of the

688
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,600
inputs over the years LED them
to say, hey, Danielle's the type

689
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,840
of person that would be inspired
by this.

690
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,800
Yes, possibly.
And and this goes back to being

691
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,720
creators, not consumers.
Execution matters.

692
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,920
How many people do you think
dialogued with AI about like fun

693
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,080
things to do on Thanksgiving
versus actually did it?

694
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:20,440
You know, and so these tools are
at our disposal, but it's still

695
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,800
going to be the people that
actually are the action takers

696
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:29,080
that that win in the end, right?
The other thing I'll say around

697
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,720
creation is we've been using
notebook LMS explainer videos

698
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:36,880
more recently to take, you know,
perhaps they'll be a Wikipedia

699
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,680
page or a 15 minute YouTube
video on the domestication of

700
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,160
cats, which is like a real life
example.

701
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,920
Hunter wanted to understand how
cats became house cats, and so I

702
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,960
pulled in a couple of different
sources and then asked Notebook

703
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,000
LM to create an explainer video.
It created a 5 minute video,

704
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:58,840
made it extremely easy to
understand with pictures with

705
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,960
it.
It really breaks it out nicely,

706
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,360
always does.
And then it really helped us

707
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,040
understand how cats were
domesticated, which is really

708
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,040
around when we became an
agrarian society.

709
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,600
And with grain comes rats, and
with rats come cats.

710
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,200
They're very effective pest.
Control, right?

711
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:24,040
And so it also created, not only
did Hunter understand this very

712
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,800
quickly get up to speed, but
then she said, I want to share

713
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,840
it with my class.
And so we were able to share it

714
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,040
with her teacher who shared it
with her cluster.

715
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,840
And now it really has legs far
beyond what we do with it if we

716
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,480
choose to share it totally.
And I think that.

717
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,840
Notebook LM is just the tip of
the iceberg.

718
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:47,680
I I really see all of these AI
video apps like Sora being able

719
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,320
to generate explainer videos and
I think that's going to be the

720
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,840
next big thing.
Absolutely.

721
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,120
So we want to be a creator, not
a consumer family.

722
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,880
We like that.
It generates a lot of ideas,

723
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,760
recognizing that most of them
will be bad, but.

724
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,240
The great thing about AI is that
it really has what they call

725
00:40:05,240 --> 00:40:08,320
elastic thinking, right?
It can take criticism.

726
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:12,160
It always has a beginner's mind.
You can tell it to relax when it

727
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,400
becomes overly analytical.
These are all really important

728
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,800
skills to have in a teammate
when you are working.

729
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,880
Absolutely, yeah.
So hopefully this was a helpful

730
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:29,560
understanding of how we use AI
at home to to clarify, coach and

731
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,320
create.
We would love to hear from

732
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:39,240
others, any novel innovations or
novel uses of AI within your

733
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:43,200
homes, especially as it relates
to things that build family

734
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,440
culture.
I can see lots of parenting

735
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,640
advice in AI, and that's a
slippery slope, but I think

736
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,320
building family culture is, it's
obviously what we're all about,

737
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,360
and it's what we're looking for
use cases around.

738
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,240
Yeah, I'd love to hear about
things that are.

739
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:59,560
Repeatable and scalable, not
just kind of creative ideas of

740
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:02,800
how do I turn these flowers into
a beautiful flower arrangement,

741
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,120
but things that are actually
incorporated into your daily

742
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,800
workflow.
Like maybe there's some shared

743
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,360
systems that you use AI for.
Would love to hear more about

744
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,040
that and just use it to.
I just want to say to the folks

745
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,400
that are scared of it or haven't
taken a look at it yet.

746
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,280
Currently we like Gemini Grok is
pretty fun as well.

747
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,600
But you know, I truly believe
that if you're listening to this

748
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,760
podcast, you are on the
forefront of developing family

749
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,520
culture and that the use of
artificial intelligence could be

750
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,680
really supportive to to your
family for sure.

751
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,480
It's been, really.
Supportive here.

752
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,120
And I think that the
developmentally appropriate

753
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,120
stuff that we're exploring with
the kids is the key to all of

754
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,840
this is bringing them in only
selectively when there's

755
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,320
problems that they need to
solve.

756
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,560
Otherwise bringing AI to them in
its finished product after we've

757
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,960
had the input reviewed and
clarified and and corrected

758
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,320
right.
So those explainer videos out of

759
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,520
notebook LM are the perfect
thing for kids.

760
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,640
They don't realize that it's all
AI generated, but they are going

761
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,920
to sit there and watch and say,
wow, that was really helpful.

762
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,640
And it sure beats the hell out
of a, you know, a 30 minute

763
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,160
YouTube to watch 5 minutes of or
me trying to read something and.

764
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,720
Then explain it exactly.
Exactly so.

765
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,640
More to come.
I feel like this is going to be

766
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,480
a recurring theme here.
And you know, fortunately, it's

767
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,000
within scope of everything that
we do, absolutely all.

768
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,920
Right.
Thanks so much, everybody.

769
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,120
Thanks everyone.
Love you, Goosey.

770
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:39,160
Love you, Goosey.
Hey guys, if you're still here,

771
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,880
you're.
Definitely our kind of person.

772
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,880
Thanks for spending this time
with us on The most Important

773
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,400
thing.
If this episode resonated with

774
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,840
you, we'd love for you to follow
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775
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,040
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776
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,760
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